Single sided swing arms
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Single sided swing arms
Ive got a 1999 blade and looking to do a single sided back end .Any info on what year of VFR 750 or 800 arm would fit in the easiest to line up with suspension etc.Thanks.
tomtom- CBT Novice
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Re: Single sided swing arms
SO many threads on this subject
I'd suggest using the search facility on this site or in google
in short...750...not 800
20-25mm spacer dependant on who you ask
I'd suggest using the search facility on this site or in google
in short...750...not 800
20-25mm spacer dependant on who you ask
radiobloke- MotoGP Legend
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Re: Single sided swing arms
and take the time to intro yourself to the forum...1st post is an ask...hows about saying hi!
hi by the way...welcome aboard
hi by the way...welcome aboard
radiobloke- MotoGP Legend
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Swing arms-again
Thanks for all the helpful threads.It seems 94-97 VFR are the arms to go with.I may have the chance of a 93 or a 98 arm are they wider or different shock alignment or whats the problem and can it be sorted .Thanks again.
tomtom- CBT Novice
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Re: Single sided swing arms
hi,,why not go for an vfr800 swinger? http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5060
rapid777- BSB Racer
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Re: Single sided swing arms
Thanks,but i think the 800 arm is wider and needs machined to fit the frame.Managed to get a 93 VFR 750 arm so just have to figure how to get the suspension linkages to mate up etc.
tomtom- CBT Novice
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Re: Single sided swing arms
hi,,use rod end bearings to mount it up to the frame,,machine down the triangle for the shock/suspension linkage,only the ones for the dogbones,and make new  dogbone/s with rod ends and  threaded rodsuse a metric vernier and common sense ,,,,,,,,,to victory :o)
rapid777- BSB Racer
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Thanks mate,thats ace.Dont suppose you got any pics of it done...no harm in asking.Cheers.
tomtom- CBT Novice
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Re: Single sided swing arms
Hi the 94-97 vfr arm is a striaght swap apart from the spacer on the swingarm spindle, it's much easier to use than the 93 arm as it uses the blades shock mounting linkage no problem!
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Re: Single sided swing arms
Thanks but already got a 93 arm so gonna give it a try anyway.
tomtom- CBT Novice
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Re: Single sided swing arms
id flog it and get the newer one...less headache i the long run
radiobloke- MotoGP Legend
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Re: Single sided swing arms
Griz, how do you go about wheel choice if you do this? i think i remember you saying you have a car wheel on yours? also are the vfr wheels not as wide as the blade ones, cause you would want to get them roughly the same to keep it handling ok wouldnt you?
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Re: Single sided swing arms
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rapid777- BSB Racer
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Re: Single sided swing arms
how do i post pics?
rapid777- BSB Racer
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you have to get a link off photo bucket, thats how i do it anyway.
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Re: Single sided swing arms
Register with photobucket, upload yer pix, copy the IMG code and paste it on here! Simples???
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Re: Single sided swing arms
vfr arm and wheel makes the wheelbase a bit longer..you'll need a new chain too
you can fit a car wheel but will need a hub mount making up
you can fit a car wheel but will need a hub mount making up
radiobloke- MotoGP Legend
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Re: Single sided swing arms
danidge wrote:Griz, how do you go about wheel choice if you do this? i think i remember you saying you have a car wheel on yours? also are the vfr wheels not as wide as the blade ones, cause you would want to get them roughly the same to keep it handling ok wouldnt you?
Hiya danidge, there are a number of different options using the 94-97 swingarm, you could go with a car wheel using the original hub, all you need to do is buy some longer thicker studs, drill out the stud holes slightly wider to take the new studs & then fit the correct width spacer to make the car wheel line up.
Or you can take out the vfr eccentric hub & fit a Ducati one if you want to go with a ducati wheel or even fit a triumph eccentric hub & use the triumph wheel.
I''m not 100% sure which hubs will fit but there is some info regarding this mod online just do a google search & if you want some more info on the car wheel conversion drop me a PM
Speaking on experience I would either go with a vfr800 wheel, you just need to grind down a few points on the wheel to make it fit up onto the 94-97 hub (again lots of info on the net about that mod) or I would go with a ducati or triumph wheel as the car wheel is not so easy to setup correctly.
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rapid777- BSB Racer
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Re: Single sided swing arms
I'd be interested in that set up mate. I bought a VFR 750 wheel and arm and was told I couldn't use the arm on my blade because the lower linkage attached by two small castings instead of the usual one. My Blade shock doesn't have a forked end ? Does this set up work ok? Any chance of some piccies?
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hi tomtom,,here u go,,,,something like this???? i don't think someone have done this yet? but i would tried it out if i was you!!??
rapid777- BSB Racer
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Re: Single sided swing arms
Thanks Rapid777,thats excellent mate.Bike wont be getting stripped for another month or so but will let you know how i get on.Thanks again.
tomtom- CBT Novice
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Re: Single sided swing arms
griz wrote:
Hiya danidge, there are a number of different options using the 94-97 swingarm, you could go with a car wheel using the original hub, all you need to do is buy some longer thicker studs, drill out the stud holes slightly wider to take the new studs & then fit the correct width spacer to make the car wheel line up.
Or you can take out the vfr eccentric hub & fit a Ducati one if you want to go with a ducati wheel or even fit a triumph eccentric hub & use the triumph wheel.
I''m not 100% sure which hubs will fit but there is some info regarding this mod online just do a google search & if you want some more info on the car wheel conversion drop me a PM
Speaking on experience I would either go with a vfr800 wheel, you just need to grind down a few points on the wheel to make it fit up onto the 94-97 hub (again lots of info on the net about that mod) or I would go with a ducati or triumph wheel as the car wheel is not so easy to setup correctly.
so what your saying is the best settup is to get a 94-97 750 arm and fit a vfr 800 wheel? grind down the wheel and get a spacer made then your good to go? any specific year 800 wheel? and also what size tyre would go on the wheel? I bet you love all of these questions its your fault for having all of the usefull knowledge
danidge- MotoGP Rider
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Re: Single sided swing arms
danidge wrote:griz wrote:
Hiya danidge, there are a number of different options using the 94-97 swingarm, you could go with a car wheel using the original hub, all you need to do is buy some longer thicker studs, drill out the stud holes slightly wider to take the new studs & then fit the correct width spacer to make the car wheel line up.
Or you can take out the vfr eccentric hub & fit a Ducati one if you want to go with a ducati wheel or even fit a triumph eccentric hub & use the triumph wheel.
I''m not 100% sure which hubs will fit but there is some info regarding this mod online just do a google search & if you want some more info on the car wheel conversion drop me a PM
Speaking on experience I would either go with a vfr800 wheel, you just need to grind down a few points on the wheel to make it fit up onto the 94-97 hub (again lots of info on the net about that mod) or I would go with a ducati or triumph wheel as the car wheel is not so easy to setup correctly.
so what your saying is the best settup is to get a 94-97 750 arm and fit a vfr 800 wheel? grind down the wheel and get a spacer made then your good to go? any specific year 800 wheel? and also what size tyre would go on the wheel? I bet you love all of these questions its your fault for having all of the usefull knowledge
No problem mate, for easy of understanding here's a link showing how it's done, you can use a 180 tyre of the later vfr wheels
http://www.tireqwik.com/sssa/menu.html
griz- MotoGP Legend
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Re: Single sided swing arms
hi tom tom,,i found a image of a custom machined triangle,,look pic nr 15 http://www.strassenkrieger.eu/sk_cms/front_content.php?idcat=79&idart=253
rapid777- BSB Racer
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Single siders
I am interested in this too mate. Which is the arm with the two casting pivots instead of the usual single wide casting? Can I still use a standard Fireblade shock with this arm and triangle?
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Re: Single sided swing arms
Thanks for that info mate,that looks like a pretty neat and relatively simple solution.
tomtom- CBT Novice
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Re: Single sided swing arms
dosent the stock triangle work??
i thought it was just a case of boltong the arm on to a 95 blade!
i thought it was just a case of boltong the arm on to a 95 blade!
danidge- MotoGP Rider
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Re: Single sided swing arms
yep....my blade and bird have used the standard bits...just a spacer...no idea what all this fuss is about tbh
radiobloke- MotoGP Legend
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Re: Single sided swing arms
Check out my pdf. files on the link below for sssa and car wheel conversion info.
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/ASF_howto.asp
regards,
CBRRRT.
http://www.streetfighters.com.au/ASF_howto.asp
regards,
CBRRRT.
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