Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
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Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
Have been talking a lot to Masterblader and Helrazzer lately about bike not accelerating, bogging, coming out of slow corners. Basically I brake and downshift going in, neutral throttle through and try to accelerate out of corner. But it just bogs down and lurches forward about 2 seconds later. It's now really pi**ing me off. Any other SFs or Road Rockets with same problem and how do you cure it?
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Re: Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
I did read somewhere on here{i think MB posted}that a common thing with fightered blades is to move all the wiring and hide it all in the void at the front below the engine.I think the problem there is that is where the air comes through to feed the airbox?That's about as technical as i get i'm afraid.I have built a loom from scratch and no wiring is in there whatsoever and has never been at any time through my various stages and run time.I can't say i've experienced anything like so there must be something in it?But,if you aint got the airbox then i have absolutely no idea whatsoever but i have been warned away from ditching that so never have.Sorry mate best i can do.
grim1- BSB Racer
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Location : northants
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Registration date : 2009-03-31
Re: Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
I take it that's not the problem?
grim1- BSB Racer
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Re: Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
yes i have identical problem((
going to mess with air box now. im getting desperate
going to mess with air box now. im getting desperate
helrazzer- Clubman Racer
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Age : 59
Location : crawley
My bike(s) : cbr1000rr 09, 94 blade streetfighter
Registration date : 2009-05-01
Re: Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
yes i have identical problem((
going to mess with air box now. im getting desperate
going to mess with air box now. im getting desperate
helrazzer- Clubman Racer
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Age : 59
Location : crawley
My bike(s) : cbr1000rr 09, 94 blade streetfighter
Registration date : 2009-05-01
Re: Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
If the fuse box is in the void infront of the airbox and it is causing an acceleration/fuelling problem,
you could do as me n shove everything under the plastic cover over the engine, leaving that free space......er... FREE
Yes its gonna get warm but so far Ive had no problems and doesnt take much to make up some small wire clips to keep everything away from the fan.
Ive had No such acceleration problems and the only down side was it's tricky to get to the fuses and 1 set of the indicator bullet connectors.
you could do as me n shove everything under the plastic cover over the engine, leaving that free space......er... FREE
Yes its gonna get warm but so far Ive had no problems and doesnt take much to make up some small wire clips to keep everything away from the fan.
Ive had No such acceleration problems and the only down side was it's tricky to get to the fuses and 1 set of the indicator bullet connectors.
Fringe- MotoGP Legend
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Age : 59
Location : Stockport, Cheshire
My bike(s) : Fightered RRS
Registration date : 2007-07-26
Re: Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
you see unlike megas my void is just that void. no wires or anything else. but still have same problem
helrazzer- Clubman Racer
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My bike(s) : cbr1000rr 09, 94 blade streetfighter
Registration date : 2009-05-01
Re: Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
Helrazzer, do ya have the plastic panel that sits between the frame rails,
and if yes, is it unbroken and a good fit?
It does seen a bit of an 'add on' but seems to bet very important for smooth carburation.
Factory Pro sugest an airbox mod but i think it still relies on the plastic pane being in place.
and if yes, is it unbroken and a good fit?
It does seen a bit of an 'add on' but seems to bet very important for smooth carburation.
Factory Pro sugest an airbox mod but i think it still relies on the plastic pane being in place.
Fringe- MotoGP Legend
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Age : 59
Location : Stockport, Cheshire
My bike(s) : Fightered RRS
Registration date : 2007-07-26
Re: Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
I do hope Mr Fringe that when you finally get round to putting that fancy rear end on that you properly reposition your wiring loom and fuse box and do a proper job instead of bodging it? The offer of taking your keys off you so you get on with it still stands mate. Anything to help a friend.
grim1- BSB Racer
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Re: Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
Gee, Mr Chumly-Warner-Grim,
What ever are you implying?
To much Chitter-Chatter and not enough jolly good tinkering me thinks?
Or is it just that yr after my blade? Naaa, not likely!
Yeah,yeah,th wiring's on the (never ending) 'To Do List'!
But at least i dont have carburation problems
TTFN
What ever are you implying?
To much Chitter-Chatter and not enough jolly good tinkering me thinks?
Or is it just that yr after my blade? Naaa, not likely!
Yeah,yeah,th wiring's on the (never ending) 'To Do List'!
But at least i dont have carburation problems
TTFN
Fringe- MotoGP Legend
- Number of posts : 1036
Age : 59
Location : Stockport, Cheshire
My bike(s) : Fightered RRS
Registration date : 2007-07-26
Re: Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
I kno it's a wild 1 but have both you guys (Hel n Mega) junked ya fuel pumps??????????????
Coz mine's still running at the mo.
Coz mine's still running at the mo.
Fringe- MotoGP Legend
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Age : 59
Location : Stockport, Cheshire
My bike(s) : Fightered RRS
Registration date : 2007-07-26
Re: Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
Valid point Fringey. One has a PP yet both suffer with same problem, the pick up after de-celeration. Both machines are ifferent in more ways than one so focus has to be on the needle and postion, slide, diaphram.
Needed your input cause we were looking at all the other possiblities. So now I'm convinced it is the carbs
Needed your input cause we were looking at all the other possiblities. So now I'm convinced it is the carbs
masterblader- The Blade Guru
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Registration date : 2007-12-10
Re: Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
Glad I could help.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Fringe- MotoGP Legend
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Age : 59
Location : Stockport, Cheshire
My bike(s) : Fightered RRS
Registration date : 2007-07-26
Re: Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
Fringe wrote:Gee, Mr Chumly-Warner-Grim,
What ever are you implying?
To much Chitter-Chatter and not enough jolly good tinkering me thinks?
Or is it just that yr after my blade? Naaa, not likely!
Yeah,yeah,th wiring's on the (never ending) 'To Do List'!
But at least i dont have carburation problems
TTFN
grim1- BSB Racer
- Number of posts : 272
Age : 53
Location : northants
My bike(s) : rrp 1993
Registration date : 2009-03-31
Re: Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
Just got back from nailing the bike on the Canal and Udimore roads and , everything crossed, it feels better!!!!. Lifted the front wheel in 1st,2nd and 3rd!!! Stripped carbs at weekend, put Helrazzers Dynojet needles on 3rd groove from bottom with 0.5mm washer under circlip. Left main jets at 116s and opened air jets to 2 1/2 turns from fully in. Made sure all gubbins under tank were not in The Void (space between Helrazzers ears) and carefully put tank etc back on. Hope this isn't a false dawn, will try again Wednesday or Thursday!!!
Last edited by megawatt on Mon 22 Jun 2009, 20:54; edited 1 time in total
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Re: Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
Bloody hooligan terrorising the neighbourhood.
Positive action (right hand) produces postive results.
Glad you got that sorted Alan now to find favour with Hellrazzer you'll have to sort his carbs out.
Positive action (right hand) produces postive results.
Glad you got that sorted Alan now to find favour with Hellrazzer you'll have to sort his carbs out.
masterblader- The Blade Guru
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Location : Orpington KENT
My bike(s) : RRS, CB500 2 X NC29
Registration date : 2007-12-10
Re: Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
yes the plastic tray is intact andhas all the rubber that goes over the carbs)) my fuel pump is still intact too)))
helrazzer- Clubman Racer
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Age : 59
Location : crawley
My bike(s) : cbr1000rr 09, 94 blade streetfighter
Registration date : 2009-05-01
Re: Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
Carb trumpets, manifolds rubbers, diaframs, springs, airbox lid all fitting ok?
Float heights?
Exhaust gaskets all the way back to the silencer?
I'm just listing anything I can think of just incase ya aint already check it already.
After that wot about the sparks at the offending revs?
New plugs? a crack in the porceline can do funny things!
I'm sure between you lot down there you'll suss it
Float heights?
Exhaust gaskets all the way back to the silencer?
I'm just listing anything I can think of just incase ya aint already check it already.
After that wot about the sparks at the offending revs?
New plugs? a crack in the porceline can do funny things!
I'm sure between you lot down there you'll suss it
Fringe- MotoGP Legend
- Number of posts : 1036
Age : 59
Location : Stockport, Cheshire
My bike(s) : Fightered RRS
Registration date : 2007-07-26
Re: Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
thank you fringe for your help, i have checked the stuff u mentioned but unfortunately no luck. its so frustrating((
helrazzer- Clubman Racer
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Age : 59
Location : crawley
My bike(s) : cbr1000rr 09, 94 blade streetfighter
Registration date : 2009-05-01
Re: Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
I pulled everything back into the space infront of the air intakes and re attached the earth to one of the bolts that hold in the tray. Then I found it easy to cable tie all the bits and bobs like the fuse box etc, to where ever I could.
I tried to keep as much as I could behind the intakes so as not to restrict the air flow into the Enginey bit.
Once I got everything where I wanted it I set about shortening wires and soldering them back together.
All in all it took about 4 hours, so its not that bigger job.
It all sits in there nice and neat, although I still have a bit to do when I wire in some clocks etc.
I tried to keep as much as I could behind the intakes so as not to restrict the air flow into the Enginey bit.
Once I got everything where I wanted it I set about shortening wires and soldering them back together.
All in all it took about 4 hours, so its not that bigger job.
It all sits in there nice and neat, although I still have a bit to do when I wire in some clocks etc.
CBRRRT- Trackday Novice
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Re: Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
i did all that with mine))
unfortunately didnt help, but i changed carbs and it sorted it
unfortunately didnt help, but i changed carbs and it sorted it
helrazzer- Clubman Racer
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Age : 59
Location : crawley
My bike(s) : cbr1000rr 09, 94 blade streetfighter
Registration date : 2009-05-01
Re: Is it just a Streetfighter problem.
One thing I found is when cutting and free flowing the exhaust to much it started bogging out and found it ran better with out the airbox and just having open stacks. Problem there becomes the tunning of the carbs which on these can be abit of fun.
Teebagga- CBT Novice
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