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Post by griz on Sun 22 Nov 2009, 21:08

Well it's not a blade guys but something to keep me busy!

It's a 2005 GSXR1000 as you can see it's been in the wars but I think it's salvagable

I may fight it or go back to standard-ish spec not sure yet?

I may have to change the frame, we'll see, but it was to cheap not to go for it!








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Post by shadow on Sun 22 Nov 2009, 22:13

You got this then mate ?
Strong engines in them things, yoshi cams and ecu = happy Griz

Track body work is £285 delivered.

Looking forward to another one of your projects
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Re: Another new project!

Post by wild bill on Sun 22 Nov 2009, 22:16

It certainly does look like its been in the wars but they are bullet proof to an extent..
Do you know anything about that frame repair? that's the only thing that would concern me paranoid
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Re: Another new project!

Post by griz on Sun 22 Nov 2009, 22:21

shadow wrote:You got this then mate ?
Strong engines in them things, yoshi cams and ecu = happy Griz

Track body work is £285 delivered.

Looking forward to another one of your projects

Yep I've got this one & the 92 blade, Oh yeah & I've still got the 99 zx7r too (but thats going soon) I didn't want to run the risk of venting my creative tendancies on the blade & thought I'd by something for me to mess about with!

Yep nice n strong engine so with maybe a bit more playing it should equal to some big smiles!

I'm looking forward to another project too, lets see how many pages we can get this time!
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Re: Another new project!

Post by shadow on Sun 22 Nov 2009, 22:26

This has happened a few times, so frame faults arnt unheard of.

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Re: Another new project!

Post by griz on Sun 22 Nov 2009, 22:26

wild bill wrote:It certainly does look like its been in the wars but they are bullet proof to an extent..
Do you know anything about that frame repair? that's the only thing that would concern me paranoid

It does doesn't it!

I'll check it out when I get it but I think I'll probably sit on the safe side of the fence & replace it with a good un & see if I can sell the one on there but that will all depend on paperwork etc...

The seller said it's been jigged & welded but to be honest I would be a little concerned about the frame with all that power running through it.
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Re: Another new project!

Post by griz on Sun 22 Nov 2009, 22:29

shadow wrote:This has happened a few times, so frame faults arnt unheard of.


OMG!!!

Now you wouldn't want that happening whilst arriving hot on the breaks onto a roundabout!
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Re: Another new project!

Post by shadow on Sun 22 Nov 2009, 22:35

griz wrote:
OMG!!!

Now you wouldn't want that happening whilst arriving hot on the breaks onto a roundabout!

It happened going into druids at oulton park, has also spilt on a few club racers.
There is a recall to brace the area.
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Re: Another new project!

Post by griz on Sun 22 Nov 2009, 22:54

shadow wrote:
griz wrote:
OMG!!!

Now you wouldn't want that happening whilst arriving hot on the breaks onto a roundabout!

It happened going into druids at oulton park, has also spilt on a few club racers.
There is a recall to brace the area.

Oh dear thats not good is it!

I'd be interested to see where they put the bracing...
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Re: Another new project!

Post by stuart on Mon 23 Nov 2009, 08:31

You may qualify for the recall mate, save you a job. Twisted Evil
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Re: Another new project!

Post by griz on Mon 23 Nov 2009, 09:09

stuart wrote:You may qualify for the recall mate, save you a job. Twisted Evil

Now there's a idea!!!
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Re: Another new project!

Post by fastbikefinder on Mon 23 Nov 2009, 09:35

Congrats.

I'm green with envy, this is my favourite gixxer of all time.

The factory welds are not up to the job, to do with the robot production line and the heat setting.




The frame brace is a bolt on around the headstock,



They wont recall if it is recorded though.........infact they wouldn't recall if it's had a frame repair either.

Best bet to buy a non recorded frame, then get the free brace treatment on that. Also, on inspection, if they find any cracks then they give you a new frame with a 5 year guarantee.

I'd be tempted to use a 750 K6 upwards frame! That would be a spectacular modification.
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Re: Another new project!

Post by griz on Mon 23 Nov 2009, 11:36

Thats some great info FBF!!

Thanks mate

So whats the score with converting to a K6 750 frame, is it lighter?
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Re: Another new project!

Post by radiobloke on Mon 23 Nov 2009, 21:12

hope it was cheap mate!


maybe put it on a kit car site and see if they want the engine and loom. keep the front and back ends for a fighter.

I've heard they pay stupid cash for decent engines!

could end up with some nice parts and a bit of profit!

or......use what you've got , flog the blade ....and get a bespoke frame made....

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that would be niiiiice!
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Re: Another new project!

Post by radiobloke on Mon 23 Nov 2009, 21:17

you know you wanna....

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Re: Another new project!

Post by griz on Mon 23 Nov 2009, 22:33

Dunno about that mate, all to much money for my liking!

I'm gonna keep the blade & get another standard frame for the gxsr & go from there with it!
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Post by fastbikefinder on Tue 24 Nov 2009, 12:03

griz wrote:Thats some great info FBF!!

Thanks mate

So whats the score with converting to a K6 750 frame, is it lighter?

Not sure mate, as far as I know it hasn't been done............YET!
K5 thou engine and K6> 750 frame.

But it has been done with a K1 thou engine with a 750 SRAD frame.

Who know's ? Your K5 engine might not fit in to a 750 K6 frame , but you have to find out!

It would be the ultimate gsxr. Lighter and shorter than your standard K5 thou, with a much better frame - that is known as one of the best handling chassis' out there.
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Re: Another new project!

Post by griz on Tue 24 Nov 2009, 12:18

fastbikefinder wrote:
griz wrote:Thats some great info FBF!!

Thanks mate

So whats the score with converting to a K6 750 frame, is it lighter?

Not sure mate, as far as I know it hasn't been done............YET!
K5 thou engine and K6> 750 frame.

But it has been done with a K1 thou engine with a 750 SRAD frame.

Who know's ? Your K5 engine might not fit in to a 750 K6 frame , but you have to find out!

It would be the ultimate gsxr. Lighter and shorter than your standard K5 thou, with a much better frame - that is known as one of the best handling chassis' out there.

Sounds interesting!

I'm not really gemed up on the gixxers to be honest, I had a 750 srad (non fuel injected) many years ago & also a good old 1100wp, I remember the srad had what was considered to be the best frame in the game back then but didn't know they followed through with that throughout the years.

Do you think the 750 frame would be up to the extra power of the 1000? & I wonder if the swingarm would fit up ok, I'm pretty sure the forks are a direct swap though.
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Post by shadow on Tue 24 Nov 2009, 12:35

Running a shorter wheelbase, isnt a good idea with the power that k5 will have.
If it was my choice id go for a stock one again or one of RB's custom jobs.
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Post by griz on Tue 24 Nov 2009, 12:39

shadow wrote:Running a shorter wheelbase, isnt a good idea with the power that k5 will have.
If it was my choice id go for a stock one again or one of RB's custom jobs.

Good point shadow, it might make it a tad twitchy! I think in my present condition something so focused might be a bit of a waste on me, I do like the frames RB posted up but that'll make things very costly & my budget won't allow it so I expect I'll go with another stock 1000 frame....
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Post by fastbikefinder on Tue 24 Nov 2009, 15:40

shadow wrote:Running a shorter wheelbase, isnt a good idea with the power that k5 will have.
If it was my choice id go for a stock one again or one of RB's custom jobs.

The 750 has a 5mm shorter wheelbase and a proven frame. The K5 or k6 thousand frame whilst geometry wise is a beauty-is flawwed, and should be kept away from even with the brace imo-it shouldn't need one!

For a 10 stone weakling no probs, but a bodybuilder like Griz, others should be considered. You'd be better off with a K4 thou or even K7 thou, but as you like one off specials the 750 frame would be something different that's up to the job and certainly worth looking into.

The thou front end you have is different to the 750's - Suzuki went back to the 41mm forks in '06 for the 750, where as the thou kept the 43mm forks. The thou shock is 46mm, the 750 40mm, so allready there's a suspension upgrade.

Unfortunatley I don't know the length of the swinging arms, but If you've got to find a frame then do some research rather than just settling for another frame headache because twitchy depends on your right hand - it all depends how you use it, the K5 thou is composed and twitchy, however you want it and 5mm wheelbase difference is negligible.

Also, knowing what happens to the K5/6 thou frames, would you really want to buy a 2nd hand one?

How about a blade frame?
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Re: Another new project!

Post by griz on Tue 24 Nov 2009, 16:12

fastbikefinder wrote:
shadow wrote:Running a shorter wheelbase, isnt a good idea with the power that k5 will have.
If it was my choice id go for a stock one again or one of RB's custom jobs.

The 750 has a 5mm shorter wheelbase and a proven frame. The K5 or k6 thousand frame whilst geometry wise is a beauty-is flawwed, and should be kept away from even with the brace imo-it shouldn't need one!

For a 10 stone weakling no probs, but a bodybuilder like Griz, others should be considered. You'd be better off with a K4 thou or even K7 thou, but as you like one off specials the 750 frame would be something different that's up to the job and certainly worth looking into.

The thou front end you have is different to the 750's - Suzuki went back to the 41mm forks in '06 for the 750, where as the thou kept the 43mm forks. The thou shock is 46mm, the 750 40mm, so allready there's a suspension upgrade.

Unfortunatley I don't know the length of the swinging arms, but If you've got to find a frame then do some research rather than just settling for another frame headache because twitchy depends on your right hand - it all depends how you use it, the K5 thou is composed and twitchy, however you want it and 5mm wheelbase difference is negligible.

Also, knowing what happens to the K5/6 thou frames, would you really want to buy a 2nd hand one?

How about a blade frame?

Um all food for thought mate!

I here what your saying about the thou frames & I really don't fancy having one spliting on me & knowing my luck it would happen to me!

There's very few thou frames about right now so I've plenty of time to consider what to do, part of me likes the idea of sticking it in a blade frame but I don't want to get caught up with to much fab work as I don't have to tools + I would worry to much about it being safe, so I dunno what I'll do yet.

Time for some research me thinks!
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Post by Fringe on Tue 24 Nov 2009, 17:33

shadow wrote:Running a shorter wheelbase, isnt a good idea with the power that k5 will have.
Oh yes it is
where's the wheelie-ing bike smiley gone?
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Post by radiobloke on Wed 25 Nov 2009, 13:37

i saw a pic of a gsx1000 with a gsxr engine in it!

will try n find it
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Post by griz on Wed 25 Nov 2009, 14:33

radiobloke wrote:i saw a pic of a gsx1000 with a gsxr engine in it!

will try n find it

Um is this a typo or sarcasm??
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Post by fastbikefinder on Thu 26 Nov 2009, 07:37

griz wrote:
radiobloke wrote:i saw a pic of a gsx1000 with a gsxr engine in it!

will try n find it

Um is this a typo or sarcasm??


Dunno , but I've seen the thou engines in GS thou frames and R750 pre srad frames too.

Also Griz......the frame / engine mounts are the same from Thousand K1-K6, and also the same as the 750 srads and K1-K5 750 frames - Suzuki seem to like the same pattern mounts throughout the last 10 years, so there's lots of direct bolt ins to be had but different spacers are needed for some models!
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Re: Another new project!

Post by radiobloke on Thu 26 Nov 2009, 20:16

griz wrote:
radiobloke wrote:i saw a pic of a gsx1000 with a gsxr engine in it!

will try n find it

Um is this a typo or sarcasm??

no mate...it looked pretty cool...
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Re: Another new project!

Post by danidge on Thu 03 Dec 2009, 21:10

the k5 thou is awesome! i think if there wasnt such thing as a fireblade that is what i would want Razz
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Re: Another new project!

Post by griz on Fri 04 Dec 2009, 11:49

danidge wrote:the k5 thou is awesome! i think if there wasnt such thing as a fireblade that is what i would want Razz

Thanks mate, I've had a srad gsxr750 & a gsxr1100 wp & really enjoyed them both but I still went back to the blades (can't beat um!) this one will be more of a project bike than a keeper but who knows if I manage to do a nice job on it then it may be a keeper! But I doubt I'll be happy until I manage to get my hands on a 08 onwards blade though!
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Good man Griz, nice talkin to ya yesterday!
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